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		<title>Thoughts on croud-sourced logo design</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[The following fragments come from a conversation with a client who was using 99designs to produce a logo for her website. I thought they would be useful and instructive. Hopefully my designer friends will chime in and tell me if my advice was sensible, but the most important part in my view was the opportunity [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The following fragments come from a conversation with a client who was using 99designs to produce a logo for her website. I thought they would be useful and instructive. Hopefully my designer friends will chime in and tell me if my advice was sensible, but the most important part in my view was the opportunity to include their large user base and build trust and relationship through the process.</p>
<h2>How to determine the award amount</h2>
<p>Go and look at several other logo design contests that have taken place recently. As you look do this, take a minute to notice the relationship between the quality of the submissions and the award amount. Your gut will tell you which logos are high quality and which aren&#8217;t. That will help you judge how much money to put into the logo design.</p>
<h2>How to make a designer take interest in your contest</h2>
<p>Most logos (or identities <a href="http://www.danielwatrous.com/framing-or-branding">Framing or Branding</a>) are designed to convey a specific message. That&#8217;s the point after all. But in some cases, there isn&#8217;t a message as much as an identity or personality. In those cases I&#8217;ve observed that instead of a logo it&#8217;s more common to see stylized text (many designers call this type treatment). Stylized text is a big deal and some companies have paid thousands of dollars to have a font made just for them.</p>
<p>One problem with novice designers is that they tend to use symbols and marks that don&#8217;t actually mean anything or add any relevant value to the logo (<a target="blank" href="http://elbowroomdesign.com/musings/357/swoosh-abuse-the-compendium/">swoosh abuse</a> and <a target="blank" href="http://www.julieandcompany.com/new_ideas_swooshes.htm">differentiation</a>). There&#8217;s really no reason to put a symbol of some sort into a logo unless it communicates something.</p>
<p>So if you think about other feminine brands, you&#8217;ll see that there&#8217;s a tendency to choose a type treatment as a logo or trademark. Think: <a target="blank" href="http://www.marthastewart.com/">Martha Stewart</a>, <a target="blank" href="http://www.lanebryant.com/">Lane Bryant</a>, <a target="blank" href="http://www.macys.com/">Macy&#8217;s</a></p>
<p>One thing to notice is that in each case they&#8217;ve used a sans serif font. They also use the same color rather than multiple colors. They also mix bold and regular size fonts to accentuate the font. Many of them use either all caps or all lowercase. Colors are nondescript and don&#8217;t call attention to themselves. They&#8217;re typically very simple (not busy).</p>
<p>If it&#8217;s hard for to identify what your message is, or if you don&#8217;t have a single message to convey then you might be best to go with a type treatment.</p>
<p>Another thing I would point out is that the websites for some of the brand names that I suggested are very simple and match the logo. If the logo (or type treatment) really will become your identity, then you want to think about how it will affect the theme on your site. They need to compliment one another.</p>
<h2>What if nothing grabs you</h2>
<p>Go here: <a target="blank" href="http://99designs.com/contests">http://99designs.com/contests</a>. On the right (and down a bit) you&#8217;ll see a panel with Recent Winning Designers. Click on these and look at their recent wins (like this <a target="blank" href="http://99designs.com/users/376750">http://99designs.com/users/376750</a> and this <a target="blank" href="http://99designs.com/people/oxy">http://99designs.com/people/oxy</a>). When you find one that looks attractive to you, ask that specific designer to take part in your contest.</p>
<p>I know I mentioned this before and I really think you&#8217;re CRAZY if you don&#8217;t do it. You should send an email to your entire list telling them about the competition and give them a link right to it. Let them vote. Let them vent. Give them a post where they can leave comments. Let them submit designs and win the award money. If you don&#8217;t leverage the interest of the people that have given you their email then you&#8217;re really passing up a gold mine. Who else in all the world is going to know your brand better than them?</p>
<p>When the project has only a couple days left, go and raise the winning bid amount. I&#8217;m not sure how much to raise it, but add another $40 on there, and (THIS IS IMPORTANT) provide new direction in the form of &#8220;after seeing all these designs we realized that we really want XYZ, so we increased the price and would love fresh new submissions&#8221;. I think that people that submitted before will be notified of the new higher price and come read why. At this point you should send out another email to your entire list telling them the same thing. Make another post where they can comment on the new logos that have been submitted.</p>
<p>If you don&#8217;t include your list in the process then you&#8217;re passing up a HUGE opportunity to bond with your list. How often do you get to shape the way a company or service looks, let alone one that you love? This might be the biggest opportunity you&#8217;ve ever had. You could even use this to build your list by encouraging them to send the contest and site to their creative friends and family.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t miss the chance to include your list in this. The quality so far isn&#8217;t all that good, but it&#8217;s being submitted by people in other countries who don&#8217;t know and love your site (it might not even be a cultural fit where they live). How could they possibly hit the nail on the head.</p>
<p>One more thing. Be sure to personally invite designers that you know. They know you, your &#8216;brand&#8217; and they&#8217;re creative. They also probably wouldn&#8217;t mind winning the prize money.</p>
<h2>What should the email sound like</h2>
<p>This email was very specific to the target audience and the personality of the site owner. You should definitely work hard to match the voice and content of an email that you might send to the audience that you&#8217;re approaching. In other words, you might not want to just copy and paste this, but you can decide.</p>
<p>By the way, there are some really crucial mental triggers (and emotional triggers) in this copy that are designed to increase the bond with the list and help them feel important. See if you can feel where they are.</p>
<p>[begin email]<br />
SUBJECT: We need your help!</p>
<p>Hi,</p>
<p>This might sound a bit rushed, but we&#8217;re in over our heads (again). We could just slog through this one on our own, but we think you might be uniquely qualified to help us solve our problem. Could you do us a small favor?</p>
<p>You see, while we&#8217;ve been working hard to make great content for [sitename], the site &#8216;logo&#8217; (if you even call it that) has gone a bit, ummm, stale. We thought it looked great when we started the site, but sooooo much has happened.</p>
<p>We&#8217;ve spent hours (days, weeks and months really) on projects and tutorials and dozens of our readers have contributed wonderful articles too. We&#8217;ve been through site crashes and technology foibles. We&#8217;ve changed things a few times and just can&#8217;t seem to find the right look.</p>
<p>But then we realized that you are our &#8216;look&#8217;. That&#8217;s why we think you&#8217;re the best person to help us right now.</p>
<p>What we want to find is some type of &#8216;logo&#8217;, for lack of a better word. Something that would represent the lives of the women behind our blog and the values we all represent.</p>
<p>The bad news is that our attempts so far just haven&#8217;t produced the results we hoped for. In fact, you can see them here:</p>
<p>[linktodesigncontest]</p>
<p>So how can you help? There are a few ways (and you don&#8217;t even have to be a designer).</p>
<p>The most simple way to help us out would be to [reply to this email/post a comment at link] telling us what you think [sitename] has become and what it means to you. Just open up and let us know why you follow our blog and what it has done for you.</p>
<p>If you feel like you have an eye for design you could go to our design contest above and vote on the submissions or even submit your own. Be as creative as you like, since we really are all about you. If you have the best design you&#8217;ll win the prize money too!</p>
<p>The last way that you can help us would be to forward this email to your family and friends that you think might have a good design idea for us.</p>
<p>[sitename] is really all about you. Thank you. We really can&#8217;t wait to hear what you think and incorporate that into who we become.</p>
<p>Sincerely,<br />
[end email]</p>
<h2>What to do if the comments go south?</h2>
<p>I think the comments are great. I would keep feeding into them and draw attention to it. People are much more likely to comment and contribute if you do.</p>
<p>As it turns out, even bad comments are good (in many cases). The negative things people would say about your company, logo or overall identity are a big deal when it comes to your own internal evolution. Controversy is also one of the most effective ways to encourage conversation.</p>
<p>Bear in mind that you&#8217;ve gotten so many more submissions than I&#8217;ve seen in any other contest. For example, [otherprominentimguru] just did a re-branded logo for [hissitename] and he only got 72 entries (and he sent an email out to tens of thousands of people). You&#8217;ve gotten 482. That shows that you&#8217;ve successfully engaged your audience.</p>
<p>By the way, I can see several elements of different logos that I really like. You can point these out to each designer and see which one combines them best.</p>
<h2>Take away</h2>
<p>A logo or brand is something that grows, just like a tree or a person. It changes over time. MOST IMPORTANT OF ALL, your brand only exists in the mind of the consumer. No matter how much money you spend, how well matched your colors are or any other combination of clever marketing tactics, your brand is determined by what your consumers think of you. You may as well include them in the decoration of your site.</p>
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		<title>Framing or branding?</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 16:13:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Having worked for two large ad agencies, I&#8217;ve heard an earful about branding. I&#8217;ve even read some books about it, and the only sure conclusion I can draw about what branding &#8220;is&#8221; is that everyone has his own opinion. It&#8217;s a bit like asking someone to describe what salt tastes like. Everyone has an idea, [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having worked for two large ad agencies, I&#8217;ve heard an earful about branding.  I&#8217;ve even read some books about it, and the only sure conclusion I can draw about what branding &#8220;is&#8221; is that everyone has his own opinion.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a bit like asking someone to describe what salt tastes like.  Everyone has an idea, but there isn&#8217;t really a common vocabulary that enables one person to verbally describe the taste.  It usually comes out as &#8220;um, uh, blah blah, why don&#8217;t you just taste it&#8230;&#8221;  So it seems to me with brands.</p>
<h2>Branding vs. Identity</h2>
<p>One book that I identified with is <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Brand-Gap-Expanded-Marty-Neumeier/dp/0321348109/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&#038;s=books&#038;qid=1262817483&#038;sr=8-1">The Brand Gap</a> by Marty Neumeier.  He skillfully points out that if a brand (as a thing) can exist, its very essence prevents it from being manufactured.  Instead it&#8217;s something that exists in the mind of the consumer as a result of repeated experiences with the brand.</p>
<p>I suppose that advertising, with it&#8217;s high fidelity and HD delivery, can attempt to implant some of those experiences vicariously through the models it employs, such as in beer commercials, but most people still know that when they drink that same beer their world doesn&#8217;t magically turn rosy.</p>
<p>But let&#8217;s just keep going and suppose that we as consumers really do internalize or identify with those beautiful avatars and are really living our lives through them.  Some of those experiences become our &#8220;own&#8221;, and as a result a &#8220;brand&#8221; begins to build in our mind.  This brand, or we could call it reputation, isn&#8217;t entirely unlike a friend that we develop our own ideas about.  </p>
<p>But with our friends, we can identify them in every situation because we they have a unique face, signature, voice, etc.  So, from one commercial, billboard, radio ad, to the next, how can do we tie them all together?  How do we know that they all correspond to the same brand?</p>
<p>I just love that question!  I love it because the answer to it helped me perform my first surgical separation between the senses and the heart when it comes to advertising.  My good friend and advertising genius, Shawn Perkins, explained to me the idea of <strong>identity</strong> in advertising.</p>
<p>It boils down to this: the Pantone colors, pigments, fonts, papers types, positioning and all the other stuff that fits into the style guide amounts to the signature for the brand.  It&#8217;s how you or I can uniquely identify the brand when we encounter some advertising in the wild.  All the style stuff is <strong>NOT THE BRAND</strong> though.  I&#8217;m always a little bugged when I hear a &#8220;creative&#8221; person claim that he&#8217;s &#8220;doing the branding&#8221; when he&#8217;s really just making a logo and choosing fonts and colors.</p>
<p>This is a really important point.  While it might be possible to convey a feeling with a logo and color choices, that doesn&#8217;t really amount to any real experience and provides me with only a signature.  If it&#8217;s skillfully done I may project some of my own experience onto it, but the logo (et. al.) isn&#8217;t a brand.  It&#8217;s a signature.  The brand comes from experience.</p>
<h2>Who ever heard of framing?</h2>
<p>Now that I&#8217;ve announced my pet peeve for designers who claim that branding &#8220;IS&#8221; identity, I&#8217;ll get on to a point that I think fits into branding, but I&#8217;ve never heard anyone mention it directly.  By the way if you have, please post a comment and link to the source&#8230;</p>
<p>The first time I really thought about framing was when I read an article about <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/04/04/AR2007040401721.html">Joshua Bell hosting a subway concert during rush hour</a>.  There was an interesting comment made near the end of the article about Mark Leithauser.  As a senior curator at the National Gallery, he oversees the framing of the paintings.</p>
<p>He suggested that if you took one of his $5 million dollar paintings and hung it on the wall in a restaurant and put a price tag of $150 on it, no one would give it much more thought.  However, when you take the same painting and frame it properly and place it on a climate controlled wall in a well secured museum, it&#8217;s value increases considerably.</p>
<p>Or at least our perception of it&#8217;s value increases.</p>
<p>One clever <a href="http://www.remarkable-communication.com/things-to-do-before-you-get-famous/">blogger</a> used that article and a discussion of context to lead into her move from a generic blogging domain to her own domain name.  I think I agree with her, that the extent to which you effectively frame (give context to) your content will influence how others receive that content.</p>
<p>The better framed the content, the more contextual credibility will be afforded to it, regardless of how credible it may actually be.  Lesson: frame what you do well if you want people to take notice/action.</p>
<h2>Framing and Branding in Internet Marketing</h2>
<p>With more and more commerce moving online, there has been much discussion of how to move branding online.  TV networks, radios and social sites are all scampering to find the most effective way to frame the ads that they deliver.  But let&#8217;s not forget that the internet is supposed to be &#8220;FREE&#8221;.  Right?</p>
<p>The techie geeks that pioneered the internet created ways to send email messages to millions of unsuspecting people, but then came along the spam laws.  The pirates found ways to distribute copyrighted content for free, but then the courts shut most of them down.  After some growing pains, the Internet is finding its place along side it&#8217;s predecessors; the newspaper, radio and TV.  You get what you pay for.</p>
<p>So how do you frame a website to stand out?  How can you give context to the content that you publish?  How do you convey experience?  Afterall, the images that are downloaded, the HTML that structures it and the servers that are delivering it are virtually identical for the multi-million dollar website and a free blog.  What&#8217;s going to make one differ from another?</p>
<p>Is it just identity?  Have I come full circle?  I don&#8217;t think so&#8230;</p>
<h2>The real point of this post</h2>
<p>My point in writing this post was to announce my new theme. Enter my new <a href="http://www.woothemes.com/">woo theme</a> that I got as a free download around the first of the year.  It&#8217;s well done and has helped me think about the images that I can use to get maximum impact.</p>
<p>I hope you enjoy it.  I also look forward to your comments about branding, framing and identity.</p>
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